you save the environment would be different in 2013. other than this pressure you talk about for the rating agencies, what is going to get these guys singing to my all? >> they are not going to think oh my god. this environment is the worst, but this'll be the right time to fix it. you don't have to worry about economics not happening. it can be the second word and it's very unlikely that she can't avoid getting it to next year, where i think they're going to be outside pressures. capital market, cutting rating agencies and great leadership out of the white house to get this done. and it's going to be difficult underscored to be lots of days where it's going to look like were going to make it and there's no question about that. we are never very pretty when we solve the problems. next year is the time to do it. it does need to be done. there's no question about it. you're not going to design the big issues and things like that in the lame duck. you're just not. you have to wait till next year. >> for me ask you, what signal would you li